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A Riot Is Not A "Coup" - Consider for a moment what happens during actual insurrections
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useapen
2024-01-23 08:50:36 UTC
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If you watch the mainstream media, you might think that what happened on
January 6th, 2021 was a coup attempt. But what if that’s not at all what
happened?

The dictionary definition of a coup is a “violent overthrow or alteration
of an existing government by a small group.”

There’s no doubt that the chaos on January 6 was a bad day for the United
States. But it was a bad day that would have been prevented had
Congressional leaders granted the request by the Capitol police for
National Guard backup

And, more importantly, the people who walked through the Capitol were
protesting what they thought was a stolen election. They weren’t planning
to take over the government and run it from the Rotunda.

Let’s be real: an unarmed group of rioters in the most armed country in
the history of the world could never take over the government. Coups
require physically overpowering the existing government. That’s why they
almost always involve the military.

Contrast what happened on Jan. 6 to what happened on September 11th. No,
not September 11th here in the United States in 2001, but September 11,
1973, in the Latin American nation of Chile.

On that day, a faction in the military launched a coup against the elected
leader Salvador Allende, resulting in the installation of General Augusto
Pinochet as president. Allende took his own life as his presidential
palace was being bombed from the air. The toppling of his government
ushered in nearly two decades of brutal military dictatorship.

Or take what happened in Iran in 1953.

Paid protesters pretending to be Communists started a riot, provoking a
backlash from regular Iranian citizens, who were unwittingly led by
another group of paid protesters who were pretending to be supporters of
the Shah.

The military then mobilized to drive out the fake Communists, raiding
government buildings and firing on the prime minister’s house. The duly
elected prime minister fled, was arrested, and spent three years in
solitary confinement.

By contrast, on January 6, a crowd of unruly but unarmed protesters
entered the Capitol, in some instances with the encouragement of the
Capitol police, and wandered around for a few hours before peacefully
leaving and going home.

Real coups are often accompanied by a climate of fear that sets in after
military leaders oust the previous government. Generals appear on camera
to assert their control of the country, showing the population who is
boss.

In contrast, Trump didn’t order the military to seize control of the
Capitol. In fact, there was no evidence that he asked anyone to storm the
Capitol at all. There’s no reason to think any leaders from the U.S.
military sided with the protests or rioters. And then Trump asked the
protesters to go home.

Ever since, the media and Democratic politicians have claimed January 6
was a “coup” or an “insurrection” to justify their campaign of political
repression that has resulted in Trump being removed from the ballot in two
states.

American democracy is far from perfect. We certainly have our share of
issues. But we didn’t see a coup attempt on Jan. 6, and it’s an insult to
people who live in countries where the military did seize control from
elected leaders to suggest that we did.

https://public.substack.com/p/a-riot-is-not-a-coup

https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/a-riot-is-not-a-coup-consider-for-a-
moment-what-happens-during-actual-insurrections/
pothead
2024-01-24 00:58:46 UTC
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Post by useapen
If you watch the mainstream media, you might think that what happened on
January 6th, 2021 was a coup attempt. But what if that’s not at all what
happened?
The dictionary definition of a coup is a “violent overthrow or alteration
of an existing government by a small
group.”https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4206842-bidens-catch-and-release-system-for-illegal-
border-crossers-is-a-failure/
Post by useapen
There’s no doubt that the chaos on January 6 was a bad day for the United
States. But it was a bad day that would have been prevented had
Congressional leaders granted the request by the Capitol police for
National Guard backup
And, more importantly, the people who walked through the Capitol were
protesting what they thought was a stolen election. They weren’t planning
to take over the government and run it from the Rotunda.
Let’s be real: an unarmed group of rioters in the most armed country in
the history of the world could never take over the government. Coups
require physically overpowering the existing government. That’s why they
almost always involve the military.
Contrast what happened on Jan. 6 to what happened on September 11th. No,
not September 11th here in the United States in 2001, but September 11,
1973, in the Latin American nation of Chile.
On that day, a faction in the military launched a coup against the elected
leader Salvador Allende, resulting in the installation of General Augusto
Pinochet as president. Allende took his own life as his presidential
palace was being bombed from the air. The toppling of his government
ushered in nearly two decades of brutal military dictatorship.
Or take what happened in Iran in 1953.
Paid protesters pretending to be Communists started a riot, provoking a
backlash from regular Iranian citizens, who were unwittingly led by
another group of paid protesters who were pretending to be supporters of
the Shah.
The military then mobilized to drive out the fake Communists, raiding
government buildings and firing on the prime minister’s house. The duly
elected prime minister fled, was arrested, and spent three years in
solitary confinement.
By contrast, on January 6, a crowd of unruly but unarmed protesters
entered the Capitol, in some instances with the encouragement of the
Capitol police, and wandered around for a few hours before peacefully
leaving and going home.
Real coups are often accompanied by a climate of fear that sets in after
military leaders oust the previous government. Generals appear on camera
to assert their control of the country, showing the population who is
boss.
In contrast, Trump didn’t order the military to seize control of the
Capitol. In fact, there was no evidence that he asked anyone to storm the
Capitol at all. There’s no reason to think any leaders from the U.S.
military sided with the protests or rioters. And then Trump asked the
protesters to go home.
Ever since, the media and Democratic politicians have claimed January 6
was a “coup” or an “insurrection” to justify their campaign of political
repression that has resulted in Trump being removed from the ballot in two
states.
American democracy is far from perfect. We certainly have our share of
issues. But we didn’t see a coup attempt on Jan. 6, and it’s an insult to
people who live in countries where the military did seize control from
elected leaders to suggest that we did.
https://public.substack.com/p/a-riot-is-not-a-coup
https://floppingaces.net/most-wanted/a-riot-is-not-a-coup-consider-for-a-
moment-what-happens-during-actual-insurrections/
Watching the videos that got leaked which show the Capitol Police escorting these people around,
opening doors for them and so forth is enough for me.
Even that nut shamman with the horns was being escorted around.
Why is that?

So was this a case of some very bad behavior?
Sure, of course it was.
Was it a coup or insurrection?
No way.
And BTW anyone proven to have destroyed property, chanted hang Mike Pence and so forth should
absolutely be prosecuted.
Most of the people were peaceful though.
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pothead
Tommy Chong For President 2024.
Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
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